The $10,000 Per Month Pattern With Tellman Knudson

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“I would ask people, “What are your financial goals?” and the vast majority of people
would always say, “$10,000 per month.” I wanted to strangle them, because when you
focus on making $10,000 per month, that’s the most you’re ever going to make.”

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Igor: Welcome back to another edition of The List Building Lifestyle with your
host, Igor Kheifets. Tellman Knudson is a living legend and the founder of
ListBuilding.com. Known as the Stan Lee of email, Tellman has completely recreated
email marketing from bottom up with an unusual tactics that skyrocket opens clicks
and sales for anyone creative or brave enough to use them. I invited Tellman to
step out of the shadows, to do what he does best, and that’s fixing people’s heads
and hearts what it comes to making money. Tellman’s wealth method and at home
self-hypnosis course allowed thousands of people to sell pack their money mindset
and shoot their financial terms debt through the roof. Tellman’s an expert at
re-wiring your brain for smashing through your current financial glass plate, and
I’m excited about what he’s going to share with us today. Tellman, pleasure
hoisting you on the show, brother.

Tellman: I’m really looking forward to it. This is going to be awesome.

Igor: So tell us, why do you believe so many people who really say they want to
make money from home, they say they want to become millionaires, I mean for many
people that I know the goal is to make at least $10,000 per month, how come most
of them struggle with that goal so much?

Tellman: Dude, really good question. So one of my most recent hypnosis sessions
that I released strangely enough, and I didn’t even tell you this, I don’t think,
is called The $10,000 per Month Session, and it sells like hotcakes. So why am I
bringing this up? There’s this interesting thing, there’s this interesting dream
that we all get sucked into and $10,000 per month, I noticed and I’ve been doing
this whole internet marketing thing since 2014, and I’ve been hypnotizing people
since 2000 and helping them get over their problems and deal with their
challenges, and it took me that long to realize that $10,000 per month pattern. It
was very, very, very frustrating. Because I was working with clients and trying to
help people in order to break through their glass ceiling, break through their
financial barriers. Both on marketing and the mindset side, and over and over and
over again in application form, so I would ask people, “What are your financial
goals?” and the vast majority of people would always say, “$10,000 per month.” I
wanted to strangle them because when you focus on making $10,000 per month, that’s
the most you’re ever going to make. $10,000 per month, the goal that you set, in
my opinion, the goal that you set for making money is the stars. They say, “Shoot
for the stars and hit the moon.” What if you only shoot for the moon? Well if you
shoot for the moon, you jump up in the air new fall flat on your face on the earth
again. So one of the reasons people stay stuck is because they set a realistic
goal, number one, that is achievable. It’s not exciting. It doesn’t make your
heart pump. It doesn’t give you any true fear or anxiety when you think about it.
Meaning, it’s not emotionally loaded in any way, it’s mediocre, it’s so-so, it’s
blah-blah. It doesn’t matter. So when you set a $10,000 per month goal, first of
all, you have to go after that goal every single month, month after month after
month after month after month, and if you don’t hit it, it gets pretty boring, it
gets pretty depressing, because you begin to believe that you can’t hit $10,000
per month. One other reasons people have a hard time is because they set goals
that are too low, and they’re too practical. Number two is when you set a
recurring goal, like $10,000 per month, if you don’t hit it, your enthusiasm
wanes, and then if you do hit it you get bored. So it’s a terrible set up to set a
sell yourself up to make $10,000 per month. You will almost always fail. You will
almost always fail. With that said, that doesn’t mean that you don’t set stepping
stones for your real goal, and your real goal may or may not be exclusively a
money goal, but you might need a certain amount of money in order to attain or in
order to achieve your real goal whatever that might be. So it’s not really about
$10,000 per month. It’s really about setting goals that are too low, setting big
goals that are actually just a stepping stone to get where you want to go. When
you start getting a little bit more clear on this, when you start setting greater
goals and bigger goals that are well outside of your current ability to achieve,
what happens is, you’re forced to go out there and rally resources, rally people
usually people, but it could be other types of resources as well in order to make
your goal a reality, because your goal, what you’re working toward is way more
exciting than what they’re working toward. When someone encounters a goal that’s
similar to theirs, but is way more exciting and clearly involves more than one
person in order to accomplish it, well that’s when they more or less let go of
their little goal and latch on to your big goal. And that’s called a team member.
That’s called someone that’s buying into your vision. That’s a perfect employee.
That’s a great contractor. That’s a phenomenal business partner. That’s a great
strategic partner. Potentially that’s wonderful joint venture partner. But if
you’re just going for $10,000 per moth like all the other chumps out there, I mean
you’re never going to break free. You’re going to stay stuck forever and you’re
never going to inspire anyone including yourself and your family.

Igor: Wow. Man, as you say this, I am sort of ashamed. Because for me, it all
started out with a modest goal of making $100 per day, and I remember even going
to bed and these special affirmations notebook where I would write down, “I am
making $100 per day on the internet quickly and easily.” That would be my ultimate
goal. At time, I remember even having conversations with my wife. I was like, “If
I could just, if I could just make $100 per day, it would be so cool. That’s be so
cool.” I couldn’t even comprehend making 10K per month at the time.

Tellman: Great. So that’s the interesting thing. I’m not to say that you can’t use
small goals, you need stepping stone goals, and if the goal that you’re setting is
truly motivating. If it gives you an emotional charge, then whatever the number is
is up to you. It’s not about $10,000 or $100, that’s irrelevant. I mean, as you
know, right? All around the world those numbers mean different things. $10,000 or
$100, they mean very different things in very different places.

Igor: For a guy who grew up In Ukraine, $100 per day is like drug lord money.

Tellman: Yeah, that’s perspective. The point is, you want a goal that really makes
you excited, that makes you excited enough to get up a couple hours early in the
morning and either work on your body, to work out and get your energy up and get
in great shape, or work on your dream before you go to your day job or whatever
else, or your other business, or whatever else you’re spending your eight or ten
hours to pay the bills on. Then in the evening when you come home, you want to be
fired up and ready to go to implement all the ideas you were thinking about all
day, just so you can sleep for two or three hours, get up the next morning and do
it again, to get your business launched or to get your dream realized. That’s the
key. It needs to be exciting enough to make you move mountains in order to achieve
it.

Igor: Nice. Okay, so that’s a quick lesson to proper goal setting, thank you so
much for that.

Tellman: Well, or at least Tellman goal setting. I don’t want to…

Igor: bTellman goal setting [laughter]

Tellman: [laughter]

Igor: To setting your goals. So Tellman, how come then so many people sabotage
themselves? I mean I know for effect for the last several years I’ve been self
sabotaging myself from hitting the next level on my business. I know for a fact,
I’ve held myself back for years from financial success. What do you do it? Where
does that come from?

Tellman: Well, there are few things. The first thing is its called experience.
Sorry. [laughter]

Igor: [laughter]

Tellman: Sometimes big goals come easy but it’s very rare in my experience. The
things that are worth achieving, you’re usually going to get your ass kicked a few
times before you nail it. I don’t know about you, but that’s been my experience in
every area of my life. I never achieved anything or ever achieved anything above
average. Where I achieved anything above the norm, I got my ass handed to me
dozens and dozens and dozens of times in order to develop the experience to know
how to avoid the landmines, how to avoid the pitfalls, how to avoid the dangers.
Without a shadow of doubt, there are shortcuts, but there are some influences and
there are some reasons that some of us seem to fail more than others. The first is
that people who feel that they’re failing all the time or self-sabotaging all the
time, usually aren’t trying hard enough. They’re usually not trying enough times.
They don’t realize that the guy that succeeded tried– they failed ten times more
than you’ve even tried. This is a very common motivational colloquialism,
motivational quote. The successful guy has failed ten times more than you’ve even
attempted. When you adopt the mindset of, “I just have to keep going and going and
going until I nail it.” You forget about all the times that you failed. You don’t
even pay attention to them. They don’t even cross your mind. You tried, to failed,
you get up, you try again. That’s the deal. However, there are a few factors that
can trip us up along the way, it can make it harder. The first one is friends and
family. Friends and family know you from before. They know everything you’ve been
up until this moment in time, and what they don’t know is everything that you
aspire and desire to be. Those are your personal secret thoughts that we all have,
and even with our closest friends, even with our closest family members, even with
our children and our spouses we are not able to share all of the thoughts that we
have when we think about what we want for the future. So our friends and family in
their conversation with you, with each other, will talk about the past. They will
reference memories, and they will do it for the rest of your life, because that’s
how we think about things as humans. But unfortunately, the way they think about
you in the past is probably not the multimillionaire or billionaire that you
desire to be. So if what you want to be is significantly different and perhaps
even unbelievable based on who you are today, or where you’ve come from in the
past, they’re not going to support that until they have evidence to believe it. So
when you tell your friends and your family members, and even your colleagues and
your coworkers about all your crazy internet dreams, there’s no context and they
have no reason to believe you. As a result, they feel like you’re fantasizing and
they’re not going to be able to support you. That’s why you shouldn’t talk to them
about your hopes and dreams as an entrepreneur. The only people you should talk to
about your hopes and dreams as a entrepreneur are people who’ve achieved as much,
and more, than you are looking to achieve, who by nature will not only support and
believe in you, because they’ve already done way more than you’re trying to
accomplish, but they know in their heart of hearts that it’s possible because
they’ve done it and they have many, many, many colleagues in business, people that
they’ve worked with that have done it too. So I encourage you not to hang out with
losers, meaning people who haven’t achieved the level of success that you want to
achieve, and only hang out with winners, people who’ve achieved the level of
success that you wish to achieve and far, far, far more. Those types of
conversations and types of emotional and moral support, not to mention potential
business connections and even, potentially financial support, are much, much, much
more valuable than conversations that do hold you back with people from your past.
I’m not saying abandon all your friends, I’m not seeing abandon your family. I’m
just saying don’t take them seriously when talking about business, or what you?re
trying to achieve financially unless they are a true role model and actually know
what they’re talking about around the topic that you’re looking to achieve in.
Does that makes sense, Igor?

Igor: Oh, yes, absolutely. It explains why, first of, the first to fall by the
wayside for me were my high school buddies.

Tellman: Yeah. I know. It’s unfortunate, right?

Igor: Yeah. I don’t talk to any of them now. We’ve completely disconnected. I
think there was a reunion sometime recently and I was not invited. Although we
were really tight. So in the moment we’re talking to them about wanting to make
money online, by the time I was promoting the software for MLMers, as an affiliate
and it was paying like 125 bucks a sale.

Tellman: Pretty cool.

Igor: I wasn’t making any money, but I was talking about it, and they were looking
at me, I mean they were looking at me like I was fucking crazy.

Tellman: Right.

Igor: So they were the first ones to fall by the wayside. Ever since, there’s been
quite a few people, and eventually you don’t… One thing that happened to me that
taught me not to talk about my dreams and hopes, etc was actually after I became
successful, after I was making about $4000 per month, which in my hometown is like
seriously good money.

Tellman: Yeah.

Igor: Good money. It was my grandmother’s funeral and after the funeral Ukrainians
have this tradition to go back home and drink and eat and sort of celebrate.

Tellman: Which by the way is way, way better than most American funerals.

Igor: [laughter]

Tellman: I’ve got to tell you. [laughter]

Igor: Well, I mean, yeah, it has its own benefits. So we’re all heading out
together and me, my brother, and my cousin had this conversation. My cousin is
like, “Wow. I’m so excited.” I’m like, “Why, what’s up?” He’s like, “Wow, I
applied for this job and for this huge pharmaceutical factory that creates, it’s
on the biggest pharmaceutical manufacturer in Israel and they export to China and
Japan.” This, that. “Super wealthy, the work conditions are awesome.” I’m like,
“Yeah? What are they paying? Are they paying this much, do they give you
vacations? Do this? Is it so hard to get in?” And I see my brother was also a full
time employee, he’s in the food business. Like a chef if you will. Works really
hard, 14-hour days. Crazy. He’s like listening to my cousin and I can see that
he’s so into it. Like you could see it sometimes, right? Lips are slightly parted;
eyes are sort of glassy, kind of like, it’s like candy for him. I’m looking at
them; I’m like, “What? You’re excited working for someone else? For peanuts and
because they give you a week of vacation every now and again, and you’re willing
to do all those stuff?” I didn’t say that, but that’s what I’ve realized. The
difference in the mindset between…

Tellman: Yeah! No, and there’s nothing… Even though it feels like there’s
something wrong with that, there’s nothing wrong with that. Right? So here’s the
interesting thing about opportunity and success. Just like the story you just
told, we are all looking out at the world through our own little lens, our own
little filter and if you think about the fact that human eyes, we have a very
limited visual spectrum of light that we can see. Right?

Igor: Yes.

Tellman: Human ears. We have a very limited spectrum of sound that we can hear. If
we can hear all the cell phone waves passing through our heads right now, we’d be
completely insane. Imagine if you could hear every conversation everyone was
having on every cell phone that’s passing through the airwaves near you right now.

Igor: That reminds me of Batman vs Joker.

Tellman: Exactly, right. It’s as you’d be completely insane. So our eyes, our
ears, all of our senses have a very limited spectrum that they can pick up on from
the world around us, and that’s how we shape reality, but it’s a very, very, very
small sliver of light in comparison to all of the input that’s out there that we
could soak up. During the conversation that you were having in the car with your
family members, you were looking through one lens, and they were looking through a
different lens. You saw something that wasn’t very appealing, and they saw
something that made their heart beat faster.

Igor: That’s true. Absolutely.

Tellman: Why do people limit themselves to $10,000 a month? Because they believe
it’s possible or because of the lens that they’re looking through. So we’re all
looking through a different lens, we’re surrounded by opportunities that are so
huge right, now but the problem is you don’t have the lens to see them. You can’t
pick up the pattern because your eyes aren’t built for that spectrum of light yet.
You need to learn how to put on a different pair of specs and look out the world
in a totally new and different way if you want to be able to realize and see the
patterns that are out there in the universe to take advantage of opportunities
that are bigger than you’ve ever thought of. When this happens, Igor, this is when
we have an “aha” moment. When we have a mental break through, a mental shift when
we figure something big out, and we’re like, “Oh my gosh. I just had the best idea
ever.” Those moments are when you gain some new perspective, when you learn to
look at the world through different filter, and those are the types of moments we
try to engineer with wealth hypnosis and the wealth method for entrepreneurs, so
you can start thinking about things on a higher and higher level.

Igor: Tell us more about that. How do you guys do it? What’s the potential of
this? Perhaps you got a case study you can refer to?

Tellman: A case study. Right. So I’ve been doing hypnosis since before the year
2000. I was technically certified through the National Guild of Hypnotists in
2000, but in the late ’90s, I was in college and I was studying the mind and the
brain. I was studying altered states of consciousness. In particular, I was
interested in how to use the flow state in order to achieve higher and higher
levels with my competitive cross-country distance running. So basically, I wanted
to be able to train at my peak level and race at my peak level more frequently,
and ideally on demand. So I started studying hypnosis. So I wanted to be training
every day at a higher level, and I wanted to be performing during race time at a
higher level so that I could win more races. So I was studying hypnosis and
binaural beats, and brainwave entrainment and NLP and all that, and shamanism and
all this stuff. What happened was I started instantly having great performance as
a runner. I was in college, I was putting myself through college, and I always had
a really tough time with my studies because I was diagnosed with Attention Deficit
Disorder when I was younger. So it was very frustrating. I could never finish a
book. I could only read a few pages of text at a time before my mind would start
wondering. Very hard to hand in my homework on time or complete projects. Started
20 things, never finished anything, all that kind of stuff. I realized that, “What
if I just tweaked the self-hypnosis sessions that I was creating for running for
focus?” Specifically as it related to my academics. And I did. For the first time
in my life I started getting straight A’s. So now, I have used the mind in order
to overcome something physical and increase my race and training speeds as a
runner, and I also applied that to my brain in order to start reading, reading
faster, having a better memory, being motivated to do things as soon as I got an
assignment instead of always waiting to the last minute, all these types of
things. And the results in that case, the measuring stick, for academics of
course, is your grades. The measuring stick for distance running is your race
time. Well, the measuring stick as an entrepreneur is money. That’s where people
get screwed up. People focus on making more money, but they don’t realize that the
money is the measuring stick. The money is the measuring stick. The money isn’t
the goal. The money is the way that you measure the goal. It’s not the goal
itself. People get confused. So I want you to think about it as I was running, I
wanted to run faster, I tweaked my mindset in order to run faster, and I in fact,
then, ran faster on the clock. I got faster race times. So for you, faster race
times are bigger paychecks. For you, faster race times are more stripe deposits or
PayPal or whatever it is that you’re using to collect money. So what I’d suggest
that you do is, yes, have a numeric goal that you want to hit for, let’s say, in
the next 12 months or the next six months with a defined end date, “I want to make
this much money. I’m want to make a hundred grand in the next six months.” or “I
want to make a million dollars in the next six months.” Whatever your goal is.
Don’t do the per month thing. I mean, you can build that in and have that be part
of it or whatever. Continuity is great, I’m not saying, “Don’t do continuity.” or
“Don’t make money on a recurring basis.” I’m saying, “Focus on making a specific
amount of money in a specific amount of time.” This is classic Think and Grow Rich
by Napoleon Hill stuff, guys. I did not come up with this. Then what I want you to
do is turn around and focus in 100% on doing the activities and becoming more
skilled at doing the activities that will allow you to hit your goal. In the case
of distance running the activities are track workouts, long eight, ten, 15-mile
slow runs, and hill repeats. That’s the sexiness of running. You do those three
types of workouts as a general rule, you do lots of push-ups and sit-ups, and you
stretch a lot, and you try to eat good. Those are the building blocks of becoming
a faster runner. So what are the building blocks of making a hundred thousand
dollars in the next six months for you and your business. What are the building
blocks? You need to decide, are they getting better at writing email? Are they
learning to master Facebook ads? Is it learning to buy or sell Solo ads? Is it
learning to write sales letters or sales videos? Is it becoming an absolute master
at using your technological platform of choice, be it click funnels, or lead
pages, or WordPress, or whatever. So if you want to make the kind of money that
you want to make and you want to do it with your own business. The biggest thing
that I see flailing, struggling entrepreneurs make is they say, “Well, I want to
make the money.” but they don’t say, “I want to build the skill.” If you don’t
build any skills, you’re dead in the water, and you’ll constantly be chasing
opportunities or “shortcuts” for the rest of your life, instead of just learning
how to kick ass and becoming better and better and better and better and better
and better and better at what you’re great at and you really love doing, so you
can constantly make more money for the rest of your life, by doing what you do
best.

Igor: Incredible. I mean, this, a perfect way to sum this up: “Don’t try to make
money, instead build the skill.” I mean, that’s just gold.

Tellman: And train every day. Every single day you got to train, and for hours.
Not like 10 minutes. You’ve got to train for hours. You’ve got to learn stuff for
a few hours and then you’ve got to go and execute for a few hours. Like bare
minimum three hours, four hours a day, in order to actually… If you want to
learn French, if you want to learn a foreign language, you’re going to go and
you’re going to take a class every day, and then you’re going to have homework
every night. And you’re going to do that five-six days a week and you’re going to
do it for a few years. If you’re not willing to trade that for a million-dollar
business, then you’re completely dead in the water before you even got started,
because you’re just not willing to put in the work. So that’s one of the other
things, is that most people in my experience are slackers and aren’t willing to
put in the work to achieve their dream. So if you’re not willing to put in the
work, don’t bother.

Igor: [laughter]

Tellman: Don’t bother.

Igor: This is classic. This is classic. I mean, you didn’t come up with this
stuff, but this is… I mean, it hit so well for me with such a fresh look at
things, the long-distance running is the perfect analogy. Running used to be
something I used to be scared of. But really, really good stuff. I really
appreciate you sharing that with us. So Tellman, how can we then use hypnosis to
sort of better ourselves or to push ourselves to build the skill?

Tellman: Yeah. So what was funny was, as a local hypnotist here, I live in Vermont
in the United States, and I was a local hypnotist here for a long time before I
ever went online. When I went online I named my company Overcome Everything,
because I wanted it to be an online hypnosis company. But what happened was I
realized I needed to get good at marketing or I wasn’t going to be able to sell
any of my hypnosis CDs. I said, “Crap. I actually do need to get good at
marketing.” Because I had started and failed seven businesses before this, by the
way. And so, I decided to get really good at email marketing, and this is really
before podcasts were a thing. I mean, technically they existed, but nobody knew
what they are. I interviewed over 80 of the best email marketers at the time. I
promoted their stuff as an affiliate because I didn’t have any of the skills that
I needed to get great email marketer. What happened was I got really good at it,
really fast, because I was interviewing these people every day and I was executing
and implementing the advice that they gave me on the interviews, much like the one
that we’re doing right now, Igor. What happened was I became very, very, very good
at email marketing, very fast, and built up a huge internet marketing company
where we train people in email marketing and list-building over a hundred thousand
paying clients and customers, multi-million dollar company, and my students and my
clients had the same problems that you’re talking about here, Igor. These mental
blocks that prevented them from achieving the level of success that they knew they
could achieve, but they were somehow sabotaging themselves, preventing themselves,
holding themselves back from achieving the level of success that they wanted. And
I realized that I was a really good hypnotist. So I started creating hypnosis
sessions specifically for internet entrepreneurs. That was back in 2005, and more
or less, I’ve been doing it ever since. The Wealth Method is our most recent and
high-level mindset training for entrepreneurs. But what I’d like to do for you is,
I know that I gave you a few sessions to listen to, from the Wealth Method, and if
you’re willing to just share for a moment, what your experience was like with
those. What I’d like to do is give everyone one of the sessions from the Wealth
Method that I normally sell for $99, each individual session is $99, but the whole
program is two grand. What I want to do is give you guys one of the many mindset
hypnosis sessions for free, just for listening to this interview, if you guys are
interested in checking it out. So what was the Wealth Method hypnosis sessions
that you experienced and listened to, what was your experience like with that,
Igor?

Igor: Well, I primarily focused on the one you gave me that was about hitting the
big goal. It could be a monetary goal or not, I actually did not choose the
monetary goal. I chose a different goal. I choose a goal that would revolved
around an existing relationship I’ve had, a relationship that caused me lots of
heartache, lots of headaches, and really just something I needed to just cut off.
So imagine it’s like me being shot in the arm and my arm is just dying and I have
to just cut it off. Otherwise, I’m going to die. So that was the experience and
for about a year I couldn’t get rid of this. This was a problem. I kept on facing
on and on, on a recurring basis.

Tellman: No, no. Is this a business relationship or a personal relationship?

Igor: A business relationship.

Tellman: Okay.

Igor: So I sat, I wrote down my goals just like the exercise said, “Right down the
goal in vivid detail.” Then I started doing this self-hypnosis session. I think in
either three or four before I finally decided to tackle this problem, and
remarkably, it went easy. So here’s this, imagine me trying to climb to the top of
Everest and that’s how difficult it seemed, but when it came down to execution, it
was just very easy and flowing, and I knew what I was doing every step of the way.
So it’s the only different feeling from what I’ve used to, because whenever its
money time, if you will, I’m always nervous and I’m questioning myself. But here,
it was just very confident. One, two, three, four, these are the steps. Bam, bam,
execute, done.

Tellman: So in your case, you had a bad business relationship, and this is with
someone that has given you money for the past year.

Igor: Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Tellman: Yeah. So this said you had to cut off this income source intentionally.

Igor: Yes.

Tellman: Yeah. So this is like quitting a job, for example, is that kind of a
thing. And you listened to the hypnosis session a few times, what was that feeling
like? What was the experience while you were listening to the session? What was
that like for you?

Igor: Well, like I said, it was very different, because I’m used to just positive
talk. Like Ryan Tracy, that sort of thing, it’s all keeping positive mentality,
looking at things from different way. What you’ve done for me, you’ve kind of
walked me through a parallel… In a parallel universe, you walked me through an
experience which resembled what I was trying to achieve, and at first it didn’t
even hit me. At first, I didn’t feel what was going on, but eventually, I could
really feel within, within the core of my body, I could feel the emotion of
lightness, of freedom, that I wanted to achieve as a result of taking that
necessary step in my life. So what this has done for me was allowed me to get a
taste, a really vivid, real taste of what I wanted, and that pushed me towards
comfortable, but yet straightforward and really enthusiastic discipline execution
of the skills or actions necessary to achieve that goal.

Tellman: And that was a problem you had for the last year.

Igor: Yeah, that was a problem I kept on trying to escape from. It was something
to procrastinate about routinely, hoping that it wouldn’t show up in my life.

Tellman: And I just gave you access to that session last week. So how many days
did it take you to nail this thing?

Igor: I think we spoke about a week before recording this. So it’s been a week
since I’ve got… It’s been six days since I got it. I have not done anything
yesterday or today. So it’s been four sessions in total, 30 minutes, 20 minutes.

Tellman: So long story short, in a week, in listening to it four times, you got
rid of a problem in your business that you’ve had for the last year, that you had
negative and avoiding feelings around it, because, hey, if you weren’t avoiding it
you would have taken care of it right at beginning.

Igor: Absolutely.

Tellman: We all have problems that we avoid because we don’t want to deal with
them. [laughter] We all do. Whether the problem is you working up the guts in
order to go and pitch someone because you’re afraid of them saying no, or whatever
it is, whenever you get that feeling of resistance, where you know there’s
something that you should do, but you can’t bring yourself to do it, hypnosis is
an incredible way to just pop right through that.

Igor: Yeah. I mean, I can testify to that for sure.

Tellman: Well, congratulations. That’s really, really cool. So yeah, what I’d like
to do is, if you guys like this whole wealth hypnosis concept, what I’d like to do
is give you one free session from my flagship program, the Wealth Method. I
normally sell this session for $99, I’d like to give it to you as one of Igor’s
List Building Lifestyle podcast listeners. So I just give out the link or what?

Igor: Oh, yeah. I’ll do it. Allow me the honors. Guys, just go ahead and visit
OvercomeEverything.com/Igor to claim your free hypnosis session that’s worth $99,
but which is one session out of a bunch of them which come together in a $2000
product. This is the same session that I’ve done personally. Take me as a living,
breathing testimonial to the effectiveness, if you actually follow the
instructions. So you’ll have to write down your big bad scary goal on a piece of
paper, in a very precise detail. And you actually have to lock yourself in a room,
or basement, or in your car for 30 minutes and put your headphones on, close your
eyes, and do as Tellman tells you, a couple of days in like one day after another,
without skipping any days. No matter how busy, frustrated, preoccupied you are
with your life, commitments, or anything else.

Tellman: Igor, that’s a really important point. Let me just tell you guys how this
works. One of the amazing thing… Actually, are we going too long? Can we keep
talking?

Igor: Oh, sure. Keep talking.

Tellman: Okay. So one of the things here guys, is that hypnosis works fast, which
is one of the magical things about it. People love hypnosis because you can get
instant results. People can go in, quit smoking, and in many cases, after just one
session, stop having urges to smoke. It’s awesome. But there’s a problem, and the
problem is commitment. So if you’re not willing to commit to practicing the
behaviors, the things that you need to do every day to become the person you want
to become, if you want to be a millionaire, then you have to act like a
millionaire now, you have to think like a millionaire now, if you want to become a
millionaire in the future. Does that makes sense?

Igor: Absolute.

Tellman: You can’t act like and think like a garbage man, if you want to be a
multimillionaire. You can’t do those things at the same time. Maybe you can own a
fleet of garbage trucks, but you can’t think about things like the garbage man
thinks about things, if you want to be a multimillionaire. You can’t do it. So if
you’re not willing to spend at least 30 minutes a day, which by the way, will be
the most relaxing and enjoyable 30 minutes of your day, every day, practicing at
becoming the person you want to become, then again, all bets are off. Good luck.
If you’re not willing to put in the time, you’re not going to reap the rewards,
bottom-line. The good news is 30 minutes of relaxation for the day is not a
massive price to pay to make the kind of progress that you want to make. So
definitely follow the directions but with all of my hypnosis clients I recommend
that people really start utilizing some form of hypnosis for at least 30 minutes a
day, seven days a week, so you can really get the full benefits. Then once you hit
your goals right now, then you set a whole new set of goals and you go after a
whole new set of challenges and you just keep on up-leveling the various levels of
your life that you want to improve.

Igor: Awesome. So you’ve heard him, boys and girls. Go ahead a visit
OvercomeEverything.com/Igor to download your free hypnosis session with Tellman,
and don’t be a slacker. Thank you so much. It’s been a tremendous episode. Awesome
stuff. I love talking about money mindset and telling people they should get off
their asses and do something. So it’s been awesome, and until next time we talk,
have a good one.

Tellman: Great. Thanks, Igor.

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