“Rich Igor, Poor Igor” With Robert Kiyosaki

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Embark on a life-altering journey with your host, Igor Kheifets, as he unveils the captivating story that propelled him from a skeptic to a self-made millionaire. From a young man caught in the conventional beliefs about wealth and success, Igor’s life took a drastic turn when he discovered the book “Rich Dad Poor Dad.” Against all odds, he decided to follow a different path, leaving school with $10 in his pocket to pursue his dream of becoming a millionaire by 25. Now, he is honored to have the legendary Robert Kiyosaki, the influential financial literacy activist and author of “Rich Dad Poor Dad,” as a guest on the show. Together, they delve into the secrets of financial intelligence, wealth creation, and the mindset required to break free from limitations. Get ready for an episode that will change the way you think about success and wealth.

Guest: Robert Kiyosaki is a globally recognized entrepreneur, investor, and bestselling author. With his groundbreaking book “Rich Dad Poor Dad,” he has revolutionized the way people perceive money, wealth, and financial independence. As an advocate of financial education, Robert empowers individuals to take control of their financial future and build wealth through his practical insights and strategies. Through his books, seminars, and coaching programs, he has inspired millions of people worldwide to adopt a wealth-building mindset and develop the necessary skills for financial success. Robert Kiyosaki’s influential teachings continue to empower individuals to achieve financial freedom and create a legacy of wealth for generations to come.

[00:00] In this episode, Igor is joined by the legend, Rob Kiyosaki, to discuss the hidden secrets of financial wealth, wealth creation, and the mindset required to break free from limitations.

[03:11] Dealing With Rejection:

  • I never expected to be a successful author in my first book. But I also knew that if I didn’t write, and I didn’t try and sell it, I wouldn’t get there anyway.
  • I think that speaks to what most people think is that success should be instantaneous, or overnight, or should be easy.
  • I enjoy doing it, which makes it easier, but I don’t expect anything to be easy. And I know that the more mistakes I make, the closer to success.
  • I think a lot of people think that you pick up a golf club and start hitting holes and ones. That’s not life. But I don’t know where people are at. So I fail until I succeed. That’s the secret to my success.

[06:32] Working Towards Success:

  • Sometimes you have to do what you don’t want to do, for example, I flunked out of school several times because I can’t write and I still can’t write. But it doesn’t mean I don’t write.
  • There’s a whole other part to everything is not just about failing, but how badly do you want to succeed?

[07:41] Becoming A Salesman:

  • If you can’t sell, you have no money because sales equal income.
  • One of the reasons I went into the nylon and pro call surfer wallet business was because this quasi-friend of mine borrowed $30,000 from me, and back in the 70s $30,000 was a lot of money. And so he says, I’ll pay a 20% interest. I went back after a few months, and he says, he doesn’t have it.
  • I started the wallet business and the shoe pocket and all this just to get my $30,000 back. And I eventually had to fire the two guys because they were incompetent.
  • If I hadn’t lost my money, I wouldn’t be so smart today. And I’ve lost so much respect for the so-called academic types, or accountants and attorneys, but they can’t sell. But they think they’re God’s gift to people that think they’re better than you and all this but they can’t sell.
  • I wish I could say it became I was unnatural and all that. It wasn’t it was just I had employees to feed and pay their benefits. That’s why I learned I had to hustle like a wild man.

[13:36] The Concept Of Income Security:

  • The late Zig Ziglar defined income security as the ability to produce, which in turn means the ability to sell.
  • Anyone who knows how to sell and who will teach themselves how to sell through trial and error and reading books and studying this art form or science will never struggle for money in today’s economy where everything’s based on money exchanging hands.

[15:27] Why Most People Aren’t Successful?

  • The reason most people are not successful is because they’re addicted to that paycheck.
  • The other thing that makes people not successful is actually selling but they spend the money they sell for they’ve got to convert the money they sell.
  • In today’s economy, you’ve got to convert your income into assets, and then cash flow. That’s the secret to success.

[18:48] The Two Brains:

  • We have two brains, we have a primal brain, and we also have a prefrontal cortex brain called the executive brain. And if I’m going to be rich, I have to educate my executive brain.
  • So I take classes, hire coaches, and all this and I study and practice because I’m training my executive brain to overcome my primal brain.
  • And executive brain called the prefrontal cortex is what separates us from dogs. When it comes to money and sex most people are just dogs, they just sit there and sniff around and make enough money and cut their paycheck.

[19:43] How To Deal With The Fear Of Quitting?

  • The first thing you can do is you can join a network marketing company, and they’ll train you or you can just quit your job and then get hungry for a while and then hit the streets.
  • The thing I say to people is, you personally have to look for the next challenge if you want to get ahead.
  • Get out of your comfort zone, that’s fears just an illusion that locks us up. But in reality, we can overcome it.

[25:03] The Secret To Success Is To Have Two People In The Picture:

  • If you have fear, do it for your daughter. If you have fear, do it for somebody else.
  • Too many people are just selfish, greedy, and lazy.
  • When I had employees, suddenly, I really had no choice but to work harder. It wasn’t about my paycheck, it was about their paycheck and their benefits, and all the insurance and all the crap I had to put up with.
  • If I didn’t have that, I would never have made so much money. I make enough money for myself, I could make $10,000 a month and sleep on the beach.

[26:47] Connect With Robert Kiyosaki:

  • Visit richdad.com to elevate your financial well-being.


Igor Kheifets is an amazon best-selling author of the List Building Lifestyle: Confessions of an Email Millionaire.

He’s also the host of List Building Lifestyle, the podcast for anyone who wants to make more money and have more freedom by leveraging the power of an email list

He’s widely referred to as the go-to authority on building large responsive email lists in record time.

Igor’s passionate about showing people how to live the List Building Lifestyle.